good supporting notes about christianity

[seeking_him92]

hola, here are a few notes that I took when I was reading a book about supporting
Christianity, why we should believe.
I came across a lot of things that I wish to share with you but here are a few
of my notes:

-belief does not create truth, unbelief does not destroy truth
christian faith goes beyond reason, but not against reason

-God is eternal, if not he would be a effect not a cause

for scientist-
no one would think a computer could come without an intelligent designer or watch
to be there without a maker, so why do we think this of us?

Albert Einstein- "My religion consist of a humble admiration of the illuminant superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are not able to perceive with our feeble minds"

-chances of originating by accident are so minute- eually difficult for the formations of only one of many amino acids in a living cell in which there are about 200,000. The time required to get 200,000 in one human cell to come together by chance would take about 3 or 4 times the earths estimated age

-if someone should claim that the living structures can be traced to the physical properties of sub nuclear particles we still need to ask
*how did these particles arise
* how does an electron have exactly the electronic charge & mass that it does
*why is it that light travles at the speed it does
* who or what dialed the balie of the gravitational constant

- the evidence is all around is
a few degrees away from the sun and we would be frozen, a few degrees closer then we would be melting.....how is it possible that this occurred by chance, if so then why is it not occurring now?

-science explains everything can be explained in a rational way as the product of some previouse event

- someone asked this guy how is it possible that a man can become god? and this other guy responded, Its not possible for man to become god but god to become man...
* it is impossible for the finite to penetrate the infinite yet the infinite can penetrate the finite
-invisible does not mean unreal, just as science and Christianity both explain

- the universe had some sense of a beginning

Is the bible true?

-prophesy's of the messiah coming were made from 500 to 1,00 years before

prophesy's about kings and nations/cities
*tyre- the bible gives detail on how it would be destroyed (Ezekiel 26) and never reconstructed, it was fulfilled in Nebuchanezzers attack and then through the onslaught of Alexander the Great..

-Prophesy's about Isreal also were fullfilled
*moses and the prophet Hosea predicted that conquering nations would disperse the jews from their homeland [Deut. 28:25] " You will come at them from one direction and flee from them from 7 other, and you will become a thing of horror to all kingdoms on earth"

Jeremiah predicted the restoration of Isreal as a nation-(" In 1948 Isreal was reestablished as a nation")

Are the bible documents reliable?
- besides in the bible, Jesus was also counted in a roman census

Dead Sea Scrolls-
these people lived in Qunran and the place was like a monestery, they spent time studying and copying the hebrew text - the scrolls were hidden in a cave because it became apparent that the Romans were wanting to destroy the jews it was found later by goat herdsmen in 1947
- they found the complete book of Isaah
and fragments of every other book besides esther, it closed the gap of almost1,000 years. Then they compared the dead sea scrolls to the masoretic text( which was found around that time) it proves the text is remarkably accurate
and the official text used in the Jurusalem temple and the scrolls reinforce each others accuaracy above all the manuscripts
" the word of god is like a lion, you don't have to defend a lion, just let it loose to defend itself"
*does archeology verify scripture?

-babylon was found, on its walls were names of the old testiment, also the names of Assurian tyrants who warred with Isreal" There has been no doubt that archeology has confirmed the substantial historicity of old testiment tradition"-Dr. W.F Albright

-archeology confimrs the biblical accounts in more than 25,000 sites connected to the biblical history

Are miricles possble?
-miricles are unusual events caused by God, the laws of nature are generalazations of ordianry events caused by him
- we have not even yet to understand the world around us so how can we say it is not possible for a dead man to be healed then, or a blind man to see, especially if done by God himself

Does science and scripture agree?
- God is a different reality than the world of science examines~ the object of a scientist faith is soley matierialistic and naturalistic

another question asked often is why does god allow suffering?
- it is not him but because of our deciosion, he gave us free will..is that not what most of us want now?...well he gave it to us and if we were not given that right we would be merely puppets on a string...that is what true love is..what he gave right there..
-evil is inheritant through free will

is christianity different from other religions?
yes, the cornerstone of our faith is the ressurection..and jesus
unlike other faiths were it is man striving to reach god with his imperfection (which is not possible)..with christianity it is god coming down to man so we can reach god...the only way though to do that was a sacrifice of blood (jesus)..so then our sins our forgiven....because God is just and holy he could not be with us because of our sinful nature so in turn he gave up his only son....so that even we could

[KYhillbilly]

Excellent.

The arguments for Christianity against humanism or atheism fall into at least 3 categories.

Cosmological. Every beginning has a beginner. (or every creation has a creator). The scientific evidence is that there was a beginning.
Teleological. Every design has a designer.
Moral. Every moral law has a moral law giver.

The arguments you've given fall into these main areas, mainly the first two. The third, the moral argument, argues against relativism. Even the staunchest humanist considers certain things as 'wrong' no matter what.

There are excellent sources for help and edification in this in addition to the source you've used here. (Was it The Case for a Creator by Lee Strobel?)
A video by Summit ministries called Thinking Like a Christian helps in all areas. We should not only argue that there is a God, but that He is the God of the Bible (as Mr. Strobel also wrote defending Christ in The Case for Christ, etc.).

I would disagree...sort of...with your reason for suffering. The Bible tells us that the reason for suffering, death specifically, is sin (see Genesis 2,3). The Bible also tells us God is in control. It's not as if He has relinquished authority or that He is not involved in His creation, or that He was or ever has been taken by surprise. All things fit into His plan, although He does not directly cause all things, especially those which are done by the sinful acts of other human beings. (He does allow them, obviously, for ultimate good in His plan Rom 8:28).
But, suffering is not always caused by other human beings. People suffered in the tsunami, and it was obviously an act of God, not man (at least directly...given that we know ultimately original sin is the root of all death). Those who argue with this argument of 'suffering' are aware of this, and will rebut your answer with examples like the tsunami, or earthquakes, etc.

People who give the 'suffering' argument are really saying that God is not God because He is helpless or unwilling to stop all suffering. They believe that puts you in a position where you must give one way or the other. Suffering was brought on by the sinful act of man, but we cannot give any impression God is not in control. Is God able to stop all suffering? Of course. Is He involved? Of course. (Christians are not strict 'deists'. What I mean is that they do not believe He created then steps back and lets things just happen or lets us by so-called 'free will' direct the course of history.) Is He righteous? Here is the thing,... He is perfectly just in addition to being perfectly righteous...so crimes against Him do not go unpunished. Justice is righteous in that case.
The problem is that men tend to think they don't deserve the suffering God is obviously allowing, if not causing, but the truth is...who are we to question God's authority, power, and judgment? In fact, we deserve far worse, which is why those who do not place their faith in God's provision of salvation in Christ which He has provided in His grace, will ultimately suffer the pains of hell. Why do we think so highly of ourselves, to believe we can cast doubt on the righteousness of God in the matters of man? We don't even deserve our very breath, much less a life free of pain or suffering. Again, God is perfectly just, and it is righteous to punish sins against Himself and to exercise His own sovereign judgment on the world as He sees fit.

[seeking_him92]

hola, here are a few notes that I took when I was reading a book about supporting
Christianity, why we should believe.
I came across a lot of things that I wish to share with you but here are a few
of my notes:

-belief does not create truth, unbelief does not destroy truth
christian faith goes beyond reason, but not against reason

-God is eternal, if not he would be a effect not a cause

for scientist-
no one would think a computer could come without an intelligent designer or watch
to be there without a maker, so why do we think this of us?

Albert Einstein- "My religion consist of a humble admiration of the illuminant superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are not able to perceive with our feeble minds"

-chances of originating by accident are so minute- eually difficult for the formations of only one of many amino acids in a living cell in which there are about 200,000. The time required to get 200,000 in one human cell to come together by chance would take about 3 or 4 times the earths estimated age

-if someone should claim that the living structures can be traced to the physical properties of sub nuclear particles we still need to ask
*how did these particles arise
* how does an electron have exactly the electronic charge & mass that it does
*why is it that light travles at the speed it does
* who or what dialed the balie of the gravitational constant

- the evidence is all around is
a few degrees away from the sun and we would be frozen, a few degrees closer then we would be melting.....how is it possible that this occurred by chance, if so then why is it not occurring now?

-science explains everything can be explained in a rational way as the product of some previouse event

- someone asked this guy how is it possible that a man can become god? and this other guy responded, Its not possible for man to become god but god to become man...
* it is impossible for the finite to penetrate the infinite yet the infinite can penetrate the finite
-invisible does not mean unreal, just as science and Christianity both explain

- the universe had some sense of a beginning

Is the bible true?

-prophesy's of the messiah coming were made from 500 to 1,00 years before

prophesy's about kings and nations/cities
*tyre- the bible gives detail on how it would be destroyed (Ezekiel 26) and never reconstructed, it was fulfilled in Nebuchanezzers attack and then through the onslaught of Alexander the Great..

-Prophesy's about Isreal also were fullfilled
*moses and the prophet Hosea predicted that conquering nations would disperse the jews from their homeland [Deut. 28:25] " You will come at them from one direction and flee from them from 7 other, and you will become a thing of horror to all kingdoms on earth"

Jeremiah predicted the restoration of Isreal as a nation-(" In 1948 Isreal was reestablished as a nation")

Are the bible documents reliable?
- besides in the bible, Jesus was also counted in a roman census

Dead Sea Scrolls-
these people lived in Qunran and the place was like a monestery, they spent time studying and copying the hebrew text - the scrolls were hidden in a cave because it became apparent that the Romans were wanting to destroy the jews it was found later by goat herdsmen in 1947
- they found the complete book of Isaah
and fragments of every other book besides esther, it closed the gap of almost1,000 years. Then they compared the dead sea scrolls to the masoretic text( which was found around that time) it proves the text is remarkably accurate
and the official text used in the Jurusalem temple and the scrolls reinforce each others accuaracy above all the manuscripts
" the word of god is like a lion, you don't have to defend a lion, just let it loose to defend itself"
*does archeology verify scripture?

-babylon was found, on its walls were names of the old testiment, also the names of Assurian tyrants who warred with Isreal" There has been no doubt that archeology has confirmed the substantial historicity of old testiment tradition"-Dr. W.F Albright

-archeology confimrs the biblical accounts in more than 25,000 sites connected to the biblical history

Are miricles possble?
-miricles are unusual events caused by God, the laws of nature are generalazations of ordianry events caused by him
- we have not even yet to understand the world around us so how can we say it is not possible for a dead man to be healed then, or a blind man to see, especially if done by God himself

Does science and scripture agree?
- God is a different reality than the world of science examines~ the object of a scientist faith is soley matierialistic and naturalistic

another question asked often is why does god allow suffering?
- it is not him but because of our deciosion, he gave us free will..is that not what most of us want now?...well he gave it to us and if we were not given that right we would be merely puppets on a string...that is what true love is..what he gave right there..
-evil is inheritant through free will

is christianity different from other religions?
yes, the cornerstone of our faith is the ressurection..and jesus
unlike other faiths were it is man striving to reach god with his imperfection (which is not possible)..with christianity it is god coming down to man so we can reach god...the only way though to do that was a sacrifice of blood (jesus)..so then our sins our forgiven....because God is just and holy he could not be with us because of our sinful nature so in turn he gave up his only son....so that even we could
lol sorry I forgot to add to the suffering part this:
that it was not our free will, but the sin that we have done, but our free will often gets in the way of gods will, which can cause suffering of different sorts....sorry did not explain there

[aSonOfGod]

Adam and Eve sinned, causing all that were to come after them to fall under the curse of sin, which is death, and suffering for that matter.

Christ came to take away the curse, for some, as it is appointed, many are called, but few chosen.

The Chosen being those that keep and do the Will of God, which is Righteousness found in His Son Christ. So, in short and simple terms, Those that are chosen are those that Keep Christ, the eternall Life and Truth found in God, given to men as a cleansing and clearing of all sins past.

Past meaning gone now that the Chosen found and keep God / Christ, and that which is Holy, God's Will.

God has a Will, His will is that none would be lost to sin, man has a will too, though his will is lesser, it is still his, for he is born godlike, with something which is like God, but those that refute or deny the truth, they deny themselves of the godliness which is in them never comming to know God.

Sin destroys the spirit, and those that worship God must worship Him in spirit and in truth. Jesus is the spirit of God, those that find Jesus find God, and those that keep Jesus know that God is a spirit and that Spirit lives in those that find Christ!

For Christ is the eternal life, hope, love, holiness, righteousness, and all things found in God, for He, God, and You are one and the same, should you accept the Truth which is found in God, Christ and ultimately In you should you believe.

Be still and Know that I am God, follow this to the letter and take it literally, it is the key to salvation, for it is a commandment of God, Christ, given to man, to be an example of what to do to find God. If you want to Know who God is, then do as it is written, and then you will know what is Spoken today by God.

The Very thing He formed all things with, the Very thing which says to the mountain move, and behold it is moved, the very thing which is life, love, joy and power, even all things found in Christ and God, the Word, Christ Jesus, amen.

A Son of God